The Actual True Story of Ned Kelly : XI : What was Glenrowan supposed to achieve?

In Part X of this series I described how the Kelly Outbreak came to an end at Glenrowan on the weekend of June 26th1880: the Kelly gang engineered but  completely botched a hostage crisis that began in the Woolshed valley with their murder of Aaron Sherritt. It ended disastrously at Glenrowan with the death of three of the four members of the Kelly gang, the death of two of the Kelly gang’s innocent hostages, the capture of Ned Kelly and the destruction of Ann Jones Inn which was burned to the ground. It was a dramatic and violent confrontation that left scores of people traumatised, the colony and the world aghast, and everyone asking why?  The Kelly Gang had obviously been preparing for this confrontation for months but what exactly had they been hoping to achieve?



For answers, the obvious sources are the words of the gang leader, Ned Kelly. Clearly, he was planning to wreck the train and to kill police: he told James Reardon, one of the platelayers he forced at gunpoint to lift the railway line, that he was doing it because he was expecting a train from Benalla “with a lot of police and blackfellas’ and “I’m going to kill all them buggers”. But was killing police in a train wreck the sole objective?


Before the siege, gang members kept quiet about what was planned for obvious reasons, but afterwards as three of them were killed, only Kelly was left to talk about it, and what he DID say was short on detail. From his prison cell in the OMG Ned Kelly wrote  that the attack was initially developed as an attempt to free his mother and two others by taking senior police as hostages:


 “This was my first intention, so as to capture the leaders of the police and take them into the bush and allow the superintendent to write to the head department and inform them if they sent any more Police after me or try to rescue him, I would shoot him, and that I intended to keep them prisoners till the release of my mother, Skillion and Williamson”


Think about this for a minute: does it make any sense whatsoever that in order to spare his mother the few months that remained of her sentence, Kelly would devise a plan for the mass killing of perhaps two dozen police in a train wreck?  How would any person in their right mind think mass killing and the taking of hostages was anywhere near reasonable and proportionate, quite apart from the likelihood that it would fail?  Any sane person would see it immediately as a gross, hyper-violent and repellent over-reaction. But there was more to it than that.


Kelly then wrote “But subsequently I varied my plans”. He doesn’t explain why he changed the plan, but declared that the new plan wouldn’t be about taking police hostage and negotiating the release of his mother and friends from gaol, but commandeering the train and using it go back down the line and rob banks:


“It was my intention then to take possession of the train, horses and everything and return along the line, leaving the police surrounding the barracks and Glenrowan, while I had the train and robbed the bank along the line”


Five days later, on November 10th he wrote his last letter, and returned to his plans for Glenrowan, restating them this time in a somewhat vague plan involving both hostage taking and bank robbing. He also rather ridiculously declared that the purpose of the armour was to make it unnecessary for him to kill anyone, because inside the armour he himself would be safe:


“The next thing I wish to mention is the Crown Prosecutor’s trying to point out my blood thirstiness in wearing steel armour. This is quite contrary, for without armour I could never have possibly robbed a guarded bank and disarmed Police without taking life, but with armour I had not occasion for taking life. I can solemnly swear now before God and man that it never was my intention to take life, and even at Glenrowan I was determined to capture Superintendent Hare, O’Connor and the blacks, for the purpose of exchange of prisoners. While I had them as hostages I would be safe. No police would follow me. And in lieu of taking them, I thought it might be as well to leave them surrounding their Police Barracks at Glenrowan and get possession of their train and horses without an encounter…”


He went on to make several other ridiculous claims  – such as that it was his idea that Curnow should go and stop the train so he could claim the reward! As for declaring that the purpose of the armour was to make it unnecessary to kill – this is the man who declared in the Jerilderie Letter that the consequence of defying him would be ‘a speedy dispatch to Kingdom Come’, and elsewhere warned that “If I hear any more of it I will not exactly show them what cold blooded murder is but wholesale and retail slaughter, something different to shooting three troopers in self-defence”.  This was the man who chased a fleeing policeman a half mile or more through the bush at Stringybark creek, wounded him, caught up to him and executed him on the spot. This was the man who ordered the tracks to be lifted at Glenrowan and told Reardon that when the train crashed he was going to ‘kill all them buggers’. The obvious lies and transparently silly attempts made by Kelly in these last desperate letters to completely re-write recent history make it hard to be certain if anything written in them should be taken at face value. They raise serious questions about his mental health.



However, these are the only direct statements he ever made about what he planned to do at Glenrowan, and why. They are stupidly optimistic, vague, unrealistic and bound to fail, with no apparent exit strategy or longer term vision for what would happen once Mrs Kelly was set free, or what move would follow the robbing of banks in armour. However, they quite clearly and consistently centre around the themes of mass murder, hostage taking, freeing his mother and robbing banks. These plans are quite mad, obviously, but like it or not those mad plans were what Glenrowan was all about and nearly fifty years later the only surviving member of the Gang, the so-called fifth member Tom Lloyd told J.J.Kenneally the same thing . Kenneally wrote (p136):

“The plan was to capture the leaders and hold Spt Hare and other leaders such as the blacktrackers, as prisoners of war and then request an exchange of prisoners. The Kellys would give up Hare and O’Connor upon the release of Mrs Kelly, Mr Skillion and Williamson…The alternative plan was to bail up everybody who happened to be in Glenrowan on Sunday and get the train stopped about a mile on the Benalla side of Glenrowan….and compel the engine driver to take the train back to Benalla and take the Kellys down the line to rob the banks. The police surrounding the barracks would be fairly stranded while the Kellys successfully carried out their plans”




Until Ian Jones came along in the 1960’s, those were the plans that everyone accepted as being the Kelly Gangs motivation for the Glenrowan attack. When he looked at those plans for Glenrowan Ian Jones saw a ‘criminal atrocity’  and along with almost everyone else recognised them as ‘madness’. The Kelly Gang weren’t regarded as heroes but as ultra-violent criminals, though some admired Kellys foolish courage and found his mad inventiveness amusing.The iron mask became a symbol of all this dark rebelliousness and disregard for the law.



However, Ian Jones was one of the people, like Max Brown, who simply couldn’t accept that Ned Kelly was actually just a crazy person. Jones wanted to see something heroic in Ned Kelly, he came to believe most of the lies that Kelly told about himself and his family being oppressed and persecuted, and so invented a new explanation for the Glenrowan campaign. He called it his  “New View”, and it was designed to elevate the image of Kelly from crazy person to heroic political visionary. Jones ‘new view’, set out at a Kelly symposium at Wangaratta in 1967 and recorded in ‘Ned Kelly Man and Myth’ was that the confrontation at Glenrowan was an attempt to overthrow local government and declare North east Victoria an independent republic.  Never mind that for more than fifty years after the Siege neither Kelly nor any member of his family or any sympathiser, informer, or police spy ever mentioned it, and even in his long speech after being sentenced to hang Kelly never mentioned any such thing : Jones was so convinced that Kelly couldn’t have been mad that he developed a conspiracy theory as good as any, directly claiming that the absence of any evidence to support the idea was proof it was real : it was such a well-kept secret that nobody ever mentioned it to anyone, ever. I am not making this up : Jones made that exact claim in his Kelly biography A Short Life: “One police agent broke the inner circle of sympathisers and head about the armour being made but failed to learn of the republic”



Though many were unconvinced, he was such a charismatic, persuasive and influential advocate for Kelly and the republic of NE Victoria that Ian Jones theory rapidly became incorporated into the Kelly legend, and went unchallenged for the next fifty years. However, when it finally was examined in forensic detail by Stuart Dawson in 2017, (Download his paper from the link at top right of this page) it fell apart, and with Jones no longer here, nobody, not even Kelly sympathisers are prepared to defend it.  In the 2020 publication ‘Glenrowan’ written by an avowed Kelly fan, there’s no mention of it.


So what’s left is what Jones himself realised at the very beginning: a criminal monstrosity,  with nothing to redeem it any way. Even if it was a plan to rescue his mother it was a stupid and shockingly violent and callous plan. However, Kelly devotees such as the hundreds of members of various Facebook Kelly support pages continue to venerate the man and his story as if Jones view is still tenable – but it’s not; it’s been debunked.  What Kelly planned for Glenrowan exposes him for all but the wilfully blind to see as a callous hyper-violent extremist and the fact that he was brought down before he could complete what he started at Glenrowan doesn’t lessen his culpability or the condemnation he deserves in the least. 


Heres my question for people who think Kelly was a hero ( and I will be shocked if any one of you pathetic denialists has the courage to answer) : Now that you can no longer hide behind the myth of the republic as an excuse for doing what he did, if Kelly had been successful at Glenrowan, the train had crashed and the Gang had murdered any of the two dozen people on board who had survived, would you still regard Kelly as  Aussie Icon hero and role model?

God help anybody who would say yes to that question..


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12 Replies to “The Actual True Story of Ned Kelly : XI : What was Glenrowan supposed to achieve?”

  1. Don’t forget poor old George Metcalf, whom Ned Kelly shot, albeit accidentally while playing with a stolen pistol. He died as a result of his wound.
    When one reads Ian Jones books, they wreak of fictional nonsense and should be removed to the fiction section of libraries. A very discredited man and one who has distorted the true nature of Ned Kelly beyond belief.
    The planning for Glenrowan could only be described as organised by a hopeless individual with no idea.

  2. Thomas Whiteside says: Reply

    Both Joe and Dan’s stupidity hanging around at Sherritt’s for two hours, and Curnow’s heroic escape aside, once the pilot train was put in front of the special was there any way the train could have been wrecked?

    It’s something I’ve wondered about for years.

    1. Yes great point Thomas. In reality Curnows brave escape may not have made much difference to the eventual outcome. As I understand it people on the train had an idea that something was up but not sure what, and proceeded from Benalla quite slowly. At worst perhaps the pilot engine might have tipped over…

      So yes Joe and Dans stupidity ruined everything – from the Gangs perspective anyway – because the delays they created gave time for important warnings to reach the police on their way up, hence the pilot train and even without Curnows warning there probably wouldn’t have been a catastrophic high speed derailment.

      1. One wonders where they got the idea that something was up and caution needed to be exercised for those on the train. I am yet to read anything that explains why the two trains were sent with the pilot train going first. Is there any reference that refers to why the two trains were sent? I have read that it was the railway authorities at Benalla that suggested that a pilot train precede the train carrying the police party, but the reason seems to hidden from us. Did they receive information, or were they just being very cautious?

  3. One wonders where they got the idea that something was up and caution needed to be exercised for those on the train. I am yet to read anything that explains why the two trains were sent with the pilot train going first. Is there any reference that refers to why the two trains were sent? I have read that it was the railway authorities at Benalla that suggested that a pilot train precede the train carrying the police party, but the reason seems to hidden from us. Did they receive information, or were they just being very cautious?

  4. Anonymous says: Reply

    At Benalla station, 211 kilometres north-east of Melbourne, when the train finally arrived after 1 am, there was widespread talk about the railway line being taken up further on. It was unclear where this information had come from. But Superintendent Hare took it seriously. In the end, he decided to use a pilot engine travelling ahead of the police train, which now contained twenty-four people. [KGU, 7]

    Cam West

  5. Kenneally was a mindless Kelly apologist who took his version of Kelly’s “plans” from the second Condemned Cell letter of 5 November. The pretence about the armour is ridiculous, even for Kenneally.

    The armour was made, as was clear to at least some of Kelly’s Glenrowan prisoners, so that the gang could stand at the top of the rail bend and shoot down at any survivors of the detailed train in the culvert.

    This is clearly explained and demonstrated by John McQuilton in the Lewis video “Outlawed” on YouTube, from the 37:30 minute mark until about the 39:40 minute mark. No excuses for anyone with any interest in the Kelly story not knowing this. Kelly was a psychopath, no too ways about it.

  6. Kenneally’s Inner History was the model for Jones’s selective presentation of the Kelly story. Once the perspective was in place, confirmation bias took over the selection and presentation of material. That’s why Jones’s narrative looks credible. But other narratives are possible using exactly the same source material. Further, Jones used selective and partial quotations from the source material, cherry-picking only those bits that fitted his view of Kelly. Once you start reading his references you see it again and again.

  7. “Confirmation bias isn’t an occasional bug in our human operating system. It IS the operating system.” – Scott Adams

  8. Justin Kurzel’s True History of the Kelly Gang has won best costume design, production design and hair and make-up in first stage of the Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts Awards.


    Cam West

    1. I viewed the film and thought, as a film, it was atrocious. Here are a few notes taken from comments left on the IMDB (Internet Movie Data Base) regarding this movie.
      Then it turns into absolute incoherent drivel,
      Not much to recommend it.
      How does a film like this get a green light
      It was confusingly un-entertaining.
      Don’t waste your time! This movie is slow and boring
      Worst ned kelly film ever! Wouldn’t recommend to anyone

      Yet this film wins awards? Was it the only film nominated?
      Frankly to anyone watching this film, it is exceedingly hard to follow, and really has a disjointed and incomprehensible story line.
      How it could even be nominated for an award defies logic.

    2. OMG, “best best costume design, production design, hair and make-up” says Australian Academy of Cinema and Television Arts….

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      Major Government Sponsor: Screen Australia
      Your taxes at work…
      For this celluloid conflagration


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