This is a post for people who value facts, evidence, the truth about things in general, and in the fine detail of the Kelly saga in particular. Its about a small but important piece of the evidence that has been used to try to locate the exact place where the Kelly Gang shot and killed two of the three police they murdered along Stringybark creek in October 1878.
The evidence in question consists of two photos of the exact place taken only a few days after the tragedy by Melbourne Photographer Mr F C Burman. (One is shown above ) I wrote a comprehensive Blog Post discussing these photos a couple of months ago, (HERE) addressing in particular the erroneous claim by some, and most dogmatically and emphatically by self-described ‘Kelly ‘research assistant’ Mick Fitzsimons among others, that the photos showed the view that would have been seen from where the police tent had been, or, in other words the ground in front of the tent where nothing happened.
There are many good reasons and many interested people who are certain that Fitzsimons is wrong: its not just me. Many of these arguments have been made by Adrian Younger and the others who belong to the Kennedy Tree group, they’ve also been made by the brilliant Two Huts site advocate Bill Denheld who also disagrees with Fitzsimons who is more or less alone out on a limb, except for the CSI team advocate Glenn Standing. The three main reasons we all reject Fitzsimons claim were discussed in that earlier Blog post but here they are in brief :
First, as anyone can see easily enough at the top of the page, Burman created a kind of re-enactment of the scene when Kennedy and Scanlan returned to the camp from the north : Ned Kelly hid himself behind a log with McIntyre to his left, and both are shown looking to the north at the arriving Kennedy. If Fitzsimons claim about camera positioning is correct, the very obvious problem with that claim is that it means the people placed in the scene for his photograph are all looking the wrong way. Fitzsimons admits this but falsely claims Burman wouldn’t have known where the people were. Actually, Burman most certainly DID know, because he was shown by Mr Monk who had accompanied McIntyre in the original search for the bodies of the murdered policemen. Burman most certainly knew, and so there is no sensible reason to believe Burman would have misplaced these people, as Fitzsimons et al claim, and have them facing the south when Burman knew perfectly well they were facing north..
Secondly, an artist made use of the Burman photos as a basis for an etching (shown above) created for publication, and highlighted shadows and light entering the scene from a direction that would not be possible if the image had been taken from the site of the police tent.
Thirdly, as I spelled out clearly in the original post, Constable McIntyre himself viewed and commented on the photos. He affirmed that the images were indeed taken at the place where the Police camped, he did NOT object to the position or the direction that Burman had the ‘actors’ in and facing – so its safe to assume they were correctly positioned- and very importantly, he said more specifically that they showed the ground where Lonigan and Scanlan had been murdered. The ground where they were killed was not the ground where nothing happened immediately in front of the tent, but on the opposite northern side of fallen trees, where there were also the ruins of a burned hut.
Despite all this, Fitzsimons and more than a dozen others on his Facebook page who agreed with him, all insist that Burman had his actors in the wrong places and they were all looking in the wrong direction. Also according to Fitzsimons, when he was shown the images McIntyre didn’t notice they were in the wrong places, and again, according to Fitzsimons the artist who made the etching got it all wrong as well, putting shadows and the light in the wrong places. According to Fitzsimons no part of the ground where Lonigan and Scanlan were murdered is visible in the photos, which of course makes absurd everyone’s claim at the time, that that’s exactly what they DID show, the actual ground where the policemen were killed.
So, if Fitzsimons is to be believed, Burman who was there at the time got it wrong; McIntyre who was there at the time got it wrong; and the Artist also got it wrong, – but Fitzsimons, who was never there and 145 years later : he got it right! Oh really?
Fitzsimons also had this to say:
“MacFarlane still hasn’t tried to disprove this unquestionable evidence or admit he lied when he claimed McIntyre said the photos showed where Lonigan & Scanlan were shot. He is just pretending he hasn’t seen it. Oh the joy in showing once again, what a dishonest and stupid fool he is!”
“It must be killing him that he has been beaten and exposed for making things up and presenting them as fact, just like the other MacFarlane did in his literary nonsense of a book.”
“It looks like I have finally shut MacFarlane up! He won’t admit he made up the claim that McIntyre said the Burman photo showed “where Lonigan and Scanlan were shot”..”
In fact, I wasn’t silenced or beaten or exposed for making things up, but simply waiting to see if Fitzsimons the self-proclaimed Kelly ‘research assistant’ would make use of the reference I provided, do the research and discover for himself that McIntyre did indeed say what I said he did. But no, he and his mob of fools just doubled down and carried on digging themselves deeper and deeper into a hole with post after post denigrating and abusing me.
I also pointed out to him how his argument for where the photos were taken from is circular and therefore a fallacy. He and his 12 ‘likers’ are too stupid to understand what a circular argument is and I am not going to waste my time explaining it to them: they can look it up. But its wrong.
So now we come to the statement that Fitzsimons claimed I made up, that I lied about, yes the one I gave him the direct reference to , the reference the now exposed failed ‘research assistant’ failed to track down, the one that could have saved him from the humiliation of being hung out to dry if he had only looked it up and kept his mouth shut. But he couldn’t be bothered, or maybe didn’t know how to, so, just to make sure the record is corrected, I am going to spoon feed it all to him and his equally incompetent hangers on:
Here’s a graphic of three pages of additional testimony provided by McIntyre to Sub Inspector D S Kennedy on July 21st 1880. It starts with this ‘Constable Thomas McIntyre adds to his statement as follows “On the morning of 29th June….”
The relevant words, at the very end of the third page of testimony taken from McIntyre by Sub Inspector Kennedy are as follows: “For the information of the Chief Commissioner the witness (McIntyre) identifies a photo of the ground where Lonigan and Scanlan were shot. Mr Burman, photographer of Burke St will be summoned to prove it”
Subsequently, Burman did indeed prove it with this statement:“The photo produced is a picture of the ground where Lonigan and Scanlan were shot. I took it myself. The place was pointed out to me a few days after the murders by Mr Monk”
This statement also disproves Fitzsimons claim that Burman didn’t know where the bodies were : Mr Monk knew because he was a member of the party that found them, and as Burman says himself “The place was pointed out to me a few days after the murders by Mr Monk.”
These statements are unequivocal : both McIntyre and Burman affirmed categorically in their statements to Kennedy that the images showed the ground where Lonigan and Scanlan were murdered. They are entirely consistent with his other statements confirming that they show the place at SBC where the police camped.
So what will happen now? Will Fitzsimons and Bob and the other dozen or so hangers-on apologise for their vile defamations of me, admit they were wrong, that I didn’t lie or make anything up, and concede that McIntyre DID say the Burman images showed the ‘ground where Lonigan and Scanlan were shot’ and so did the person who took the photo? Will he finally admit that the Burman photos were not taken from the ground in front of the tent?
No of course not – I know from a decade of experience with this obstinate moron that there is ZERO chance of that happening. Instead he and his mob of blind fools will do what they’ve always done when found out – if not stunned into an embarrassing and shameful silence – extremely unlikely – they will double down on the personal attacks, the mockery, the abuse and the vile accusations, and combine that with a package of verbal gymnastics, backflips, sidesteps and somersaults worthy of a world class contortionist to explain to themselves – but fail to convince anyone else – why they are still right, why the facts are not really facts, why words don’t really mean what they mean and why any evidence that contradicts their preconceived dogmas should be ignored. For this contemptible mob, facts and evidence and logic are meaningless. So grab your popcorn folks and sit back and be entertained by the Toad and his Kelly clowns as they wriggle and spin their way deeper into the ranks of the discredited fanatical buffoonery known as Kelly sympathy.
I wrote at the top of the page that this is a post for people who value facts, evidence, the truth about things in general, and in the fine detail of the Kelly saga – in other words it wasn’t written for the abusive Toad and his ilk – they are not that kind of people. It was written ABOUT them for people who ARE interested in the true story.